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jenni_b
#1 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2010 9:22:39 PM Quote
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Are you able to talk about your RA with your friends?

I find it really hard to do this as they are generally my age and lives are so very different to mine. they all work at least part time and manage their children, cook dinner, do aerobics or go shopping in an eve.

at weekends they are out all day/ managing the children and then off out for a meal and sometimes off to a club afterwards for a dance.

it is very acute to me this time of yr with the christmas party season.

do your friends have any understanding?

Jenni
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heather1
#2 Posted : Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:25:30 PM Quote
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Hi Jenni, I can talk to some of my friends about it and a couple of them totally understand but sometimes when we go out for a girls night (a meal and few drinks, none for me!!) I feel a bit like a party pooper when Im ready to come away at 10-10.30pm ish!! I dont want to keep saying "im tired" all the time so it can sometimes be difficult.

Generally my friends are good but I dont honestly think with the best will in the world, anyone can totally understand this illness unless they have it themselves or is that a bit harsh?

Heather xxxxx
chockers
#3 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:04:54 PM Quote
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some do and some don,t .
Most think there nothing much wrong .
or they don,t see you cos they say you are not up too a lot .

Some think i can,t walk .
talking to them try not too as then they think you are ill

The worst thing is the stupid waight watchers diet .I have a few friends on it and now they don,t go out with you encase you offer a crumb .
and they won,t go for a coffee .Wont go for lunch .
then they are at the gym burning off so they can eat more .I think that drives more mad then the r.a .

But i am offton helping friends so i do see them sometimes .
yeap give up sometimes .

friends sometimes never see them yes they are out at work and now lot of them have grandchildren
Christine
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smith-j
#4 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:31:47 PM Quote
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Jenni

I quite agree with you. Relatives, friends and work colleagues do not understand about this disease. It's almost like "oh yes I know about Arthritis, a bit of a niggle in the old knee or hand". No matter how much I talk to people about this they do not understand. Many times there have been embarassing silences and then the subject has been changed. My favourite phrase from people I talk to is "oh I don't know what to say to you".

I have been struggling at work for nearly two years now and have finally been told I have to have my knees replaced. When I told my work colleagues on Tuesday, there was final dawning on their faces that maybe this disease is a lot more serious than they realised even though they had read the NRAS booklets about RA. It is also true with my family. My Daughter has finally realised why I hate going out with her. Not because I don't want to spend time with her but the awful pain I have to put up with whilst walking and for hours afterwards.

I am not sure that we will ever be able to educate those around us about this disease and it can get very lonely sometimes which is why I love this forum for us to talk.

Jackie
xx
Rose-B
#5 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:01:30 PM Quote
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Hello Jenni,

Yes agree with you and everyone else.

I am very lucky to have GREAT friends and lots of them to.

However, they always asking how I am but I tend to always say now i'm
ok could be better but i mustn't moan. I am always tired, some days I
hurt all over (like today), and if I started to tell them how I really felt
they would think me a moaning minnie.

As you say no body understands the side effects at all I am in my second
week back at work after being off for over 7 months, and although I
am doing a graded return and working Tues and Thurs 3 hrs each day. When
I went in today and said that I slept 11 hours last night and yesterday I
had no energy , they looked at me as if I had 2 heads. . . . . grr

Good luck we all are aware and understand.


Rose
suzanne_p
#6 Posted : Friday, November 19, 2010 12:08:25 PM Quote
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hi Jenni,

i find that i can talk about RA with my very best friends of a lot of years standing and they do understand my pain and fears.

if i talk to what i would call more aquaintances i.e. neighbours, people i know in my local shops etc. they say ohh yes i've got a bit of a painful knee it's giving me jip and so on,

so i prefer to not really talk about it to these people now as i feel if i try and explain i feel like a Martyr.

fortunately i am not in the work place now so don't have that problem to tackle.

Suzanne x
Lorna-A
#7 Posted : Saturday, November 20, 2010 3:00:21 PM Quote
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Hi Jenni,

Sorry to hear you feel alone and sad at the moment regarding your friends. I don't have lots of friends but I do have a few really close friends who were absolutely brilliant at the time I was diagnosed. They knew me for always being very busy and not phased by anything, so it was a big shock to them to see me needing as much help as I did at that point.

May be that helped as they saw me unable to do much and it's a natural reaction to help in a case like that. I am well controlled on the drugs now so it is not so much a problem anymore. I am a very family orienter-ed person so I spend lots of time at home and in my garden. Try to maybe invite people up one at a time to feel included. Have a Christmas celebration with your family as well as Christmas day. Make it a big deal dressing the tree, mine always look forward to that.

Thinking about you, Take care. Lorna x Smile

jenni_b
#8 Posted : Sunday, November 21, 2010 4:09:34 PM Quote
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Decisions time!

I have decided to book a meal for me and my PAs and also one for me, richard and our close friends. I have booked so I know it will be access friendly.

I have lots and lots of friends and perhaps a dozen close ones.

the ones I met on here are a special case!ThumpUp

they know Im ill, and know I have been in hospital etc but cant make the mental leap between being fairly chirpy and leading a full on life for me is totally different to other 30 somethings.

I think the trouble is they know about me being unwell but forget that this effects every single part of life.

perhaps thats it.

Jenni
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chockers
#9 Posted : Sunday, November 21, 2010 9:40:23 PM Quote
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sounds good Jenni chrissyThumpUp
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Carol_F
#10 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:15:00 PM Quote
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I HAVE TO AGREE

APART FROM ONE PARTICULAR FRIEND WHO IS REALLY UNDERSTANDING --I HAVE OTHERS -WHO I HAVE KNOWN FOR YEARS WHO LIKE ROSE SAID JUST LOOK AT YOU AS IF YOU HAVE 2 HEADS WHEN YOU SAY HOW TIRED YOU ARE OR THAT YOU ARE NOT FEELING GOOD ON A PARTICULAR DAY.

ONE F THEM ASKED WHY I HAD GIVEN UP MY JOB AS A DOCTORS RECEPTIONIST

WITH FYBROMYALGIA/RA/SJOGRENS/MENIERS/OSTIOARTHRITIS---I WONDER WHY

IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO GET ACROSS TO ANYONE WHO HASN'T GOT RA WHAT WE GO THRU ON A DAILY BASIS


TAKE CARE EVERYONE

CAZ XX
chockers
#11 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:15:20 PM Quote
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smith-j wrote:
Jenni

I quite agree with you. Relatives, friends and work colleagues do not understand about this disease. It's almost like "oh yes I know about Arthritis, a bit of a niggle in the old knee or hand". No matter how much I talk to people about this they do not understand. Many times there have been embarassing silences and then the subject has been changed. My favourite phrase from people I talk to is "oh I don't know what to say to you".

I have been struggling at work for nearly two years now and have finally been told I have to have my knees replaced. When I told my work colleagues on Tuesday, there was final dawning on their faces that maybe this disease is a lot more serious than they realised even though they had read the NRAS booklets about RA. It is also true with my family. My Daughter has finally realised why I hate going out with her. Not because I don't want to spend time with her but the awful pain I have to put up with whilst walking and for hours afterwards.

I am not sure that we will ever be able to educate those around us about this disease and it can get very lonely sometimes which is why I love this forum for us to talk.

Jackie
xx

Use a buggie when out Jackie .Or go out but wait for them at a coffee shop or meet them at a resting place .Ask an o,t to give you a plan for a day out mine did is get up earley take pills potter breakfast get dressed compleat rest go out rest up a table a certain way so joints rest potter around rest in car /bus feet flat to floor arms rested .Take pain killers my feet don,t hurt half as much or am as tried .
Christine
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jeanb
#12 Posted : Friday, December 03, 2010 12:02:37 PM Quote
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I do sympathise with you, our Jenni! I find that my oldest friends, ie those I have known almost a lifetime are wonderful, supportive and very understanding, despite my grumbles and gripes!! They always make sure where we go is accessible, disabled friendly and that someone stays sober to get me home!! My church friends are also very supportive. My daughter is wonderful but won't talk about RA - I think it scares her - it's as if by talking about it it will become even worse and she doesn't seem able to face the fact that it could well deteriorate. However, when we are out and about she looks after me superbly and is very considerate.

Love Jeanxx

The friends I have made through this forum are the best kind there is. xx
Mairead-H
#13 Posted : Friday, December 03, 2010 4:32:18 PM Quote
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I got fed up of trying to explain to people what this disease is like so I use this description instead:-

The pain of rheumatoid arthritis is best described by smashing every joint in your body with a lump hammer and then injecting burning oil into them.

That does the trick usually. If it doesn't I add on

How tired am I? Imagine running a 26km marathon and then having to do the whole thing again straight away but underwater. That's how tired I am.

That usually gets the message across.
Mandy_M
#14 Posted : Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:14:57 AM Quote
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Oh! I do like that Mairead-H!
AnnieB
#15 Posted : Saturday, December 04, 2010 1:38:27 PM Quote
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Mairead,

Might just use this one myself.

Anne x
Brenda-I
#16 Posted : Tuesday, December 07, 2010 1:07:01 PM Quote
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From my experience most people I talk to have no idea what RA is and they think it's rheumatism or sciatica.Because we look 'normal' others don't realise the pain we are in.One friend even said to me,'you can't be too bad or else you wouldn't be able to get out and about'.But I try to keep going without complaining or giving in and now if I'm asked how I am(which isn't very often) I just say 'fine thank you' and leave it at that. Even close family members never ask if I need any help,thank goodness I've got a wonderful partner,he's my soul mate and I sometimes have to rely on him a lot and he never complains. Brenda.x
Sara-R
#17 Posted : Wednesday, December 08, 2010 3:33:12 PM Quote
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I've already used your suggestions Mairead, just love your descriptions, it sits well with my sense of humour and laughing is the very best thing, it also cuts the conversation short and I can then talk about something else. I've been very open with people, friends, family and neighbours, since my diagnosis and yes like everyone else on here, I've had very mixed reactions. From the pitying look, poor you (which I hate) to, oh well never mind let's talk about the weather (which I find infuriating). I think its a bit like bereavement, people just don't know how to deal with it. End result, I've stopped telling people. Living in a village you can be pretty sure everybody knows anyway.

My latest quip when someone asks me how I am is "Hmm, ask me one on sport" I did that earlier on with someone from NRAS ringing about my Xmas card order and we had a right old laugh. I've decided that I really must stop being an RA bore, except here of course, and try to laugh about it more. Since telling my family 4 weeks ago they haven't rung since, oh, apart from a text from my brother about football. I shouldn't be surprised, they only ever call when they want something anyway or they're having some drama that they want me to sort out for them. Luckily I have the most fantastic, understanding and patient husband in the world who's doing his best but isn't quite sure what that is and neither am I yet!
vickeynursey
#18 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2011 12:25:22 PM Quote
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Hi all

I agree completely with Caz..i have 2 heads on a regular basis...this forum has helped me mainly from just reading through with a cuppa in hand..it makes me feel happy that you are all such lovely people with helpful tips,support and understanding to those newbies like me who hasn't actually got a clue what to do in every way now!

Re friends scenario..my main friend said and i quote " well if you are going to end up all gnarly then i wont go out shopping with you as people will stare at us"!!!! Said in her completely non serious manner but actually that sentance completes my worst nightmare about this deasease...I have told a few other friends who i expected to want to chat and be sympathetic..none have,in fact nobody has bothered to contact me either which i have to say has upset me a lot.

It probably doesnt help that i dont seem to be able to make mate dates as if i have to cancel at the last minute due to sudden blooming ra onset crap then i will be unpopular and not invited out again!

I live a long car journey away from any family i have so only see them every 2 months.

My mother in law is very sweet,but keeps asking me if it's gone..? No matter how i explain..it aint sinking in! Bless...

How do i win this battle??

Any ideas gratefully appreciated..i am only a young'un (39) and feel that life sucks at the minute..thank god for my children thats all i can say!

Still the sun shines today....gotta be worth a smile don't you say?

thanks for listening.
vicky
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